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		<title>By: Scot McPherson</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have a 486 running a linux system I built for that box, as well as several pentium 200 and 233 MMX systems that I run in a cluster just for fun and letting my workstation offload some work when it can while I am doing vitally more important things like playing Eve Online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have a 486 running a linux system I built for that box, as well as several pentium 200 and 233 MMX systems that I run in a cluster just for fun and letting my workstation offload some work when it can while I am doing vitally more important things like playing Eve Online.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im thinking of trying linux on my 1997 ibm aptiva which one should i use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im thinking of trying linux on my 1997 ibm aptiva which one should i use?</p>
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		<title>By: Links 13/06/2009: Palm Pre Reviews, Fedora 11 Impressions &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 13/06/2009: Palm Pre Reviews, Fedora 11 Impressions &#124; Boycott Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 Reasons Old Computers Love Linux There are hundreds of stories about people who pulled an old Windows 95/98/ME computer out of their basement, put some kind of Linux distro on it, and are in a computing heaven, blissfully unaware of the age of their computer. And you never hear about people pulling the same computer out and saying, “Wow! Windows 95 solves all of my problems! Good bye, modern computing!” Why is Linux so dominant in this category? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5 Reasons Old Computers Love Linux There are hundreds of stories about people who pulled an old Windows 95/98/ME computer out of their basement, put some kind of Linux distro on it, and are in a computing heaven, blissfully unaware of the age of their computer. And you never hear about people pulling the same computer out and saying, “Wow! Windows 95 solves all of my problems! Good bye, modern computing!” Why is Linux so dominant in this category? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Windows 2000 on old hardware, it it relatively harmless. Basically a dressed up version of NT4, it beats the (something) out of 95 and 98, and does not require as much CPU and memory as XP. It also has ineffective copy protection. Works better than wine, is current enough for most software. Don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s dual booted, I just use it for stuff that is important and only available on windows. Oh yeah, I need to look at web pages with an old IE to see what the real losers are gonna see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Windows 2000 on old hardware, it it relatively harmless. Basically a dressed up version of NT4, it beats the (something) out of 95 and 98, and does not require as much CPU and memory as XP. It also has ineffective copy protection. Works better than wine, is current enough for most software. Don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s dual booted, I just use it for stuff that is important and only available on windows. Oh yeah, I need to look at web pages with an old IE to see what the real losers are gonna see.</p>
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		<title>By: AP,2</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>AP,2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Author: &quot;2009 software on a 1995 machine is much better than 1993 software on a 1995 machine.&quot;

It would probably be good to emphasize: &quot;&lt;b&gt;Linux&lt;/b&gt; 2009 software on a 1995 machine is much better than 1993 software on a 1995 machine.&quot;

Windows software actually follow an inverse trend (e.g., Vista is reported to copy files more slowly than XP on old computers).

@ animeBSD: Also sir, no sane person without specific need still use 9x line of Windows. My Celeron 300 MHz does…. And it can run Red Alert 2 and Office 2000.

It was once recommended to me to use Windows 98 instead of Linux on an old machine; it is common knowledge that, despite its problems, Windows 98 performs better than XP on old hardware. Besides, a Celeron 300MHz is not old enough: we&#039;re talking old as in a Pentium 75MHz -- or even a 486. Contrary to modern belief, these can still be useful in a variety of situations.

@AP:
&gt; Let’s not be manichean here. Modern Linux distributions tend to be nearly as resource hungry as their proprietary counterparts.

Sure, but what is modern? XP is still fairly modern to me: I bought a XP PC last year and at work my XP PC is slated to be replaced in 1 year (when it will still be somewhat ok) to 3 years (when Windows 7 will make XP obsolete, I guess). Now, comparing XP to its Linux equivalent (e.g., a contemporary Mandrake/Mandriva), I state -- from my experience -- that Linux is leaner, faster, easier to use _and_ maintain. Why do I use XP at work? Because the admins are Windows-centric and don&#039;t want Linux -- and possibly don&#039;t trust recent M$ products like Vista... like most, I suppose.

&gt; Will those oldies be as comfortable to use as the very recent PC with lots of memory, CPU power and a big KDE/Gnome on top ? Probably not. It’s just a matter of expectations.

That depends on planned usage (that&#039;s what you probably mean by &quot;expectations&quot;). A power user would probably have intensive demands like audio or video editing, maybe gaming -- so a 2-year old PC is needed. A day chores office worker would probably be satisfied with text-editing, email and basic web browsing... a 5-year machine would do for this.
A salesperson could even be satisfied with a 9-year old machine used as thin client. Other specialized uses would even get by with even older hardware.
Now, modern Linuxes can be made to be &quot;damn small&quot; and they compare favorably (IMHO) to Windows 98.
Again IMHO, for such purpose, Vista won&#039;t do.
Nor 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Author: &#8220;2009 software on a 1995 machine is much better than 1993 software on a 1995 machine.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would probably be good to emphasize: &#8220;<b>Linux</b> 2009 software on a 1995 machine is much better than 1993 software on a 1995 machine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Windows software actually follow an inverse trend (e.g., Vista is reported to copy files more slowly than XP on old computers).</p>
<p>@ animeBSD: Also sir, no sane person without specific need still use 9x line of Windows. My Celeron 300 MHz does…. And it can run Red Alert 2 and Office 2000.</p>
<p>It was once recommended to me to use Windows 98 instead of Linux on an old machine; it is common knowledge that, despite its problems, Windows 98 performs better than XP on old hardware. Besides, a Celeron 300MHz is not old enough: we&#8217;re talking old as in a Pentium 75MHz &#8212; or even a 486. Contrary to modern belief, these can still be useful in a variety of situations.</p>
<p>@AP:<br />
&gt; Let’s not be manichean here. Modern Linux distributions tend to be nearly as resource hungry as their proprietary counterparts.</p>
<p>Sure, but what is modern? XP is still fairly modern to me: I bought a XP PC last year and at work my XP PC is slated to be replaced in 1 year (when it will still be somewhat ok) to 3 years (when Windows 7 will make XP obsolete, I guess). Now, comparing XP to its Linux equivalent (e.g., a contemporary Mandrake/Mandriva), I state &#8212; from my experience &#8212; that Linux is leaner, faster, easier to use _and_ maintain. Why do I use XP at work? Because the admins are Windows-centric and don&#8217;t want Linux &#8212; and possibly don&#8217;t trust recent M$ products like Vista&#8230; like most, I suppose.</p>
<p>&gt; Will those oldies be as comfortable to use as the very recent PC with lots of memory, CPU power and a big KDE/Gnome on top ? Probably not. It’s just a matter of expectations.</p>
<p>That depends on planned usage (that&#8217;s what you probably mean by &#8220;expectations&#8221;). A power user would probably have intensive demands like audio or video editing, maybe gaming &#8212; so a 2-year old PC is needed. A day chores office worker would probably be satisfied with text-editing, email and basic web browsing&#8230; a 5-year machine would do for this.<br />
A salesperson could even be satisfied with a 9-year old machine used as thin client. Other specialized uses would even get by with even older hardware.<br />
Now, modern Linuxes can be made to be &#8220;damn small&#8221; and they compare favorably (IMHO) to Windows 98.<br />
Again IMHO, for such purpose, Vista won&#8217;t do.<br />
Nor 7.</p>
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		<title>By: WJM</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>WJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linux is not Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is not Linux. There are many other ways to go besides Ubuntu, so don&#039;t say that because it didn&#039;t work for you that linux doesn&#039;t work. You can try Mandriva, Suse, puppy, DSL, or about 250 other ways to use Linux on your machine. 

I recently got a machine from my 70+ year old mother, who told me that I probably wouldn&#039;t like it, because it was so slow. I took Winblows off of it, put Mandriva on, and it&#039;s one of the fastest machines I run, currently. I could also put Suse on it without any problems, I am sure.

There are many ways to do Linux, don&#039;t try one and say that the whole OS doesn&#039;t work. That is not fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is not Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is not Linux. There are many other ways to go besides Ubuntu, so don&#8217;t say that because it didn&#8217;t work for you that linux doesn&#8217;t work. You can try Mandriva, Suse, puppy, DSL, or about 250 other ways to use Linux on your machine. </p>
<p>I recently got a machine from my 70+ year old mother, who told me that I probably wouldn&#8217;t like it, because it was so slow. I took Winblows off of it, put Mandriva on, and it&#8217;s one of the fastest machines I run, currently. I could also put Suse on it without any problems, I am sure.</p>
<p>There are many ways to do Linux, don&#8217;t try one and say that the whole OS doesn&#8217;t work. That is not fair.</p>
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		<title>By: uk fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>uk fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to get Ubuntu 9.04 to run on a HP XE783.  The intel graphics driver for i810 motherboard graphics locks up and is unusable.  I guess this distribution is herding us to Nvidia graphics cards and more modern computers.  Check out the complicated instructions to try to fix it. The last two Ubuntu releases have performed badly on my PC (pulseaudio problems in 8.10 and intel graphics in 9.04).  Who needs sound or graphics that work on a PC?  Why release a beta graphics driver in a release that is so hyped up like Ubuntu 9.04.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to get Ubuntu 9.04 to run on a HP XE783.  The intel graphics driver for i810 motherboard graphics locks up and is unusable.  I guess this distribution is herding us to Nvidia graphics cards and more modern computers.  Check out the complicated instructions to try to fix it. The last two Ubuntu releases have performed badly on my PC (pulseaudio problems in 8.10 and intel graphics in 9.04).  Who needs sound or graphics that work on a PC?  Why release a beta graphics driver in a release that is so hyped up like Ubuntu 9.04.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not be manichean here. Modern Linux distributions tend to be nearly as resource hungry as their proprietary counterparts. On older computers, the great variety of free software OSes and distributions makes easier to make them as comfortable as possible to use. Will those oldies be as comfortable to use as the very recent PC with lots of memory, CPU power and a big KDE/Gnome on top ? Probably not. It&#039;s just a matter of expectations. Know to anticipate how an old computer with a modern, free software and well tuned OS will behave and present it with objectivity to the final user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not be manichean here. Modern Linux distributions tend to be nearly as resource hungry as their proprietary counterparts. On older computers, the great variety of free software OSes and distributions makes easier to make them as comfortable as possible to use. Will those oldies be as comfortable to use as the very recent PC with lots of memory, CPU power and a big KDE/Gnome on top ? Probably not. It&#8217;s just a matter of expectations. Know to anticipate how an old computer with a modern, free software and well tuned OS will behave and present it with objectivity to the final user.</p>
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		<title>By: mangoo</title>
		<link>http://blog.tsmacdonald.com/archives/142/comment-page-1#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>mangoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.

I have an old Cyrix CPU machine (800 MHz CPU and some strange board) which didn&#039;t want to work with Windows XP at all for some reason.

Works fine with Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.</p>
<p>I have an old Cyrix CPU machine (800 MHz CPU and some strange board) which didn&#8217;t want to work with Windows XP at all for some reason.</p>
<p>Works fine with Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I resurrected an old Compaq 750 AMD Duron with Qimo for my 2 year old daughter.  All that she knows is that Tux Paint works great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I resurrected an old Compaq 750 AMD Duron with Qimo for my 2 year old daughter.  All that she knows is that Tux Paint works great.</p>
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